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One thing about The Dark Knight...
Rachel Dawes. You know that part, where Harvey is going to jail and Bruce is all "Woe! The last hope for Gotham, gone."
WHAT ABOUT RACHEL!?
She's young, pretty, connected, a great lawyer, fearless, driven and she'd look great on a poster. She's as much of a white knight as Harvey and she dies uncompromised. The hero to Harvey's villain. I don't have a problem with her dying, or the way that she died, but the point that she died a hero should have been made more explicitly. I wish there had been some hint, before they were kidnapped that she could have taken up Harvey's mantle. Instead we're left with this awesome woman, who stands up to thugs, mob bosses and sociopaths with aplomb, but can never do more than support her men.
The refrain in The Dark Knight that you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain, is embodied in Rachel and Harvey, not Harvey and Bruce. Bruce remains a potential villain. Though he pulled back from the brink (by refraining from killing the Joker, by letting Lucius walk away and the sonar thingy be scrambled), he will always have the potential to be corrupted as Harvey was. And Harvey will always hang over Bruce, and remind him of what he himself could become. But equally, Rachel should stand as an example of moral fortitude. Not important solely because she loved him, and as far as he knows, was going to wait for him, but as an inspiration - as someone who never crossed that line. She died a hero and Harvey lived long enough to become a villain - became a villain in part because of her death.
I think this Bruce needs both of them.
I know that Rachel is a new character and not part of the overall Bat mythos like the Joker and Two-Face, but come on, we're talking movieverse, where more than a few things have been tweaked and Harley Quinn from TAS proved that new characters can still make it in Batland.
I really wish they'd done more with this character.
WHAT ABOUT RACHEL!?
She's young, pretty, connected, a great lawyer, fearless, driven and she'd look great on a poster. She's as much of a white knight as Harvey and she dies uncompromised. The hero to Harvey's villain. I don't have a problem with her dying, or the way that she died, but the point that she died a hero should have been made more explicitly. I wish there had been some hint, before they were kidnapped that she could have taken up Harvey's mantle. Instead we're left with this awesome woman, who stands up to thugs, mob bosses and sociopaths with aplomb, but can never do more than support her men.
The refrain in The Dark Knight that you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain, is embodied in Rachel and Harvey, not Harvey and Bruce. Bruce remains a potential villain. Though he pulled back from the brink (by refraining from killing the Joker, by letting Lucius walk away and the sonar thingy be scrambled), he will always have the potential to be corrupted as Harvey was. And Harvey will always hang over Bruce, and remind him of what he himself could become. But equally, Rachel should stand as an example of moral fortitude. Not important solely because she loved him, and as far as he knows, was going to wait for him, but as an inspiration - as someone who never crossed that line. She died a hero and Harvey lived long enough to become a villain - became a villain in part because of her death.
I think this Bruce needs both of them.
I know that Rachel is a new character and not part of the overall Bat mythos like the Joker and Two-Face, but come on, we're talking movieverse, where more than a few things have been tweaked and Harley Quinn from TAS proved that new characters can still make it in Batland.
I really wish they'd done more with this character.