I thought so, but since we're still getting to know each other, I didn't want to just ask. ;)
Every time someone says fandom is by women, for women, they're saying we're not here, and we don't belong here. And it's different than saying that to cis guys, who do also make up a portion of fandom. Transguys are always being denied their masculinity; that's part of being trans. And for cis women to sit there and say fandom is by women, for women, it's like they're saying "I see you as female" in the same what white folks say "I see you as white" to PoC.
*nod* Fandom, and slash fandom in particular has a problem with making certain groups of people invisible. Being online seems to make even easier for privileged groups to assume that everyone is like them. While I can see while the FUBU slash doctrine evolved, I don't think it actually solves the problem it's trying to fix. Yes it creates a fandom space in which women are visible and can control the discussion, but it does so through presuming the nonexistence of other groups. I *feel* like it's better than it was ten years ago, though.
For myself, two of my big fandoms are most definitely not woman-identified. American comics fandom is still dominated by guys, and there's plenty of fic by both men and women. Harry Potter, because it's so huge, has a little bit of everything. I have cis guy, girl and a handful of trans friends in each. Those are probably the fandoms I'm most comfortable in. The fandoms I've felt least comfortable in are the ones where you have to go through a thousand fans, before finding a lesbian, never mind a cis guy.
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I thought so, but since we're still getting to know each other, I didn't want to just ask. ;)
Every time someone says fandom is by women, for women, they're saying we're not here, and we don't belong here. And it's different than saying that to cis guys, who do also make up a portion of fandom. Transguys are always being denied their masculinity; that's part of being trans. And for cis women to sit there and say fandom is by women, for women, it's like they're saying "I see you as female" in the same what white folks say "I see you as white" to PoC.
*nod* Fandom, and slash fandom in particular has a problem with making certain groups of people invisible. Being online seems to make even easier for privileged groups to assume that everyone is like them. While I can see while the FUBU slash doctrine evolved, I don't think it actually solves the problem it's trying to fix. Yes it creates a fandom space in which women are visible and can control the discussion, but it does so through presuming the nonexistence of other groups. I *feel* like it's better than it was ten years ago, though.
For myself, two of my big fandoms are most definitely not woman-identified. American comics fandom is still dominated by guys, and there's plenty of fic by both men and women. Harry Potter, because it's so huge, has a little bit of everything. I have cis guy, girl and a handful of trans friends in each. Those are probably the fandoms I'm most comfortable in. The fandoms I've felt least comfortable in are the ones where you have to go through a thousand fans, before finding a lesbian, never mind a cis guy.