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bingo cards
I hate them. I hate them so much. They started as a way to mock sets of stale-ass, lather rinse rebuttals, but have become stale themselves. They are the definition of old meme. If your bingo cards have become bingo cards, it's time to rework YOUR arguments. Just tactically speaking, if you want to win arguments, change minds, all that good stuff, you've got to hold fast to your core ideas, while being flexible about how you present them. Just, it's no good being old meme in an argument. It's like bringing a rusty butter knife to a gun fight. Don't do it.
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(Not that I've ever even used one. But yeah, never thought of them as discussion and not everything has to be.)
That said, there are a lot of meme rebuttal phrases that I hate to see; because those people *are* trying to hold down an argument, and instead they're just repeating something that they have only the vaguest understanding of or that doesn't really apply. And the more people do that the more the meaning of the phrase expands and continues to actually mean even less and less. (ie not *everything* is the Tone Argument, goddamn)
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Motto to all of this. I've been in arguments where I've tried to make people see reason, but all I got was spots on a bingo card. I find that it doesn't necessarily help the person to see what they've said is actually old news, but it might help a lurker or two.
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Also, I'm... kind of tired of seeing the same cards over and over. Can we have new memes plz? /o\
Heh, I hear you.
I've jumped through the hoops that people have held up, even drew for the whole 'link a whitey' (Tim Wise) to the convo (stick a pin: I don't mind Tim Wise, but I do feel annoyed whenever I have to draw for that argument, because only then do I get a whole, "Oh, I see what you're saying" when I've linked him). So after that, I'll drag out the bingo card, and go, "Dude, you aren't saying anything new, it's a BINGO."
It's an old meme true, but then so is the whole runaround about the various isms. I also find that if I do get annoyed to the point of swearing, I'd get called out on my tone, so the bingo card is my way of showing the middle finger without having to drop bombs .
But it doesn't really come out until some hours and snaked posts later, I'm pretty much like, "Oh sod this for a game of soldiers" and unleash the card.
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