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schmevil ([personal profile] schmevil) wrote2010-06-14 04:50 pm
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J2 story set in post-earthquake Haiti

Caught Between the Earth and Sky, by [livejournal.com profile] gatorgrrrl

The setting is Haiti, post-earthquake. Jensen Ackles is an American doctor who's running from his past, trying to make up for his mistakes in this broken place and live up to the promise he made to his brother half a lifetime ago. Jared Padalecki is a naive photojournalist who's hiding from himself, hoping to find one more story in a place already forgotten by the rest of the world. When he learns about all the good things Jensen and his friend, Haitian nurse Abraham Joseph, are doing around the ravaged country, he thinks he's found his story. Jensen, of course, thinks otherwise. But Jared is nothing if not persistent, and when circumstances work to throw them together, he quickly learns that Dr. Jensen Ackles is more than just a story and that sometimes, stories can become personal.

Haiti is: broken, forgotten, ravaged (Darkest Haiti?)

Jensen is: hiding from himself, motivated by personal tragedy, trying to become better through helping the less fortunate

Jared is: naive, plucky, determined, hiding from himself, writing a story about a white aid worker

Abraham Joseph is: a Haitian nurse whose primary descriptor is 'Jensen's friend'


Anyone read the story? This strikes me as an intensely problematic and unwise premise.


ETA: I see [livejournal.com profile] spnpermanon is discussing the issue. This is what I <3 about the meme. Nonnies there have hashed out just why the timing, genesis and thrust of the story is offensive.

ETA:

From her author's notes here:

I have taken a few liberties with some of the facts in order to make them fit into the story the way I needed. For example, Haiti's daytime temperatures in February/March, when the majority of this fic takes place, tend to be in the 70s-80s F; I made it seem much hotter. The country's rainy season doesn't really begin until early April; I pushed it up a few weeks. And the Port-au-Prince General Hospital was severely damaged in the earthquake and since then, its emergency room has been housed in a tent. In the fic, the building is fairly undamaged and even has electricity.

And here:

When I signed up for Big Bang back in January, I had a completely different story in mind. An SPN gen story, in fact. That idea languished inside my head for a few weeks until I finally gave up trying to force it and moved on. Then the idea of a different J2 AU fic popped into my head, but again, it didn't go anywhere. Then it occurred to me: Why not use current events as the setting? The Haiti earthquake was still in the news and the more I saw about it, the more I wanted to use it until it seemed like the best idea ever. (That, of course, is only my opinion.)

From here.

I am very sorry to hear that my choice of setting offended you. It was not my intention in the least to treat the Haiti earthquake lightly or to diminish the devastation of it. I tried my best to treat the topic with respect and frankly, I think I did a decent job of it. Using the setting of a disaster or an epidemic or a war as a backdrop to a 'romance' isn't really that unusual in fiction, based on many of the novels and movies I have read and seen, but obviously it isn't your cup of tea. I agree; these types of fics aren't for everyone.
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[personal profile] naraht 2010-06-14 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Here via DW Latest Posts and agreed, haven't read the story, but alarm bells started going off when I read the summary.

Note also the warnings: "angst, bad words, m/m sex, non-graphic death of children." Um, yeah.
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[personal profile] naraht 2010-06-14 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed. So does warning for m/m sex right alongside.
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[personal profile] naraht 2010-06-14 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree entirely. It's the juxtaposition of that, with the warning for gay sex, with the warning for bad language that made me look cockeyed at it. All of these things are not like the others.
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here via network

[personal profile] gloss 2010-06-14 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, good GRAVY. This does not sound promising in the least.
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Re: here via network

[personal profile] cofax7 2010-06-14 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
The artist made use of photos of actual survivors in her manips.

::facepalm::

Not Enough WTF in the world.
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Re: here via network

[personal profile] gloss 2010-06-14 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I just read the story notes. Her research consisted of "looking at some pictures". Really awful, entitled, *horrible* stuff.
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Re: here via network

[personal profile] gloss 2010-06-14 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Excellent (and soulcrushing) point about the time and effort and *participation* that went into this.

It's almost perfectly cliche, to the point that in any other context, I'd be sure we were all being trolled. I kind of wish we were.

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[personal profile] verstehen 2010-06-15 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, as offensive as I find the story, the artworks worse. Yet... there's only one comment on the artist's journal about this?

(At least she removed the pregnant woman picture. URGH.)
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[personal profile] verstehen 2010-06-15 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I don't meant to say that I think people should dogpile onto the artist, ftr! Just that I find it also problematic that the author gets a ton of flack and the even more problematic (in my eyes) use of real pictures gets none. It's sort of a commentary on fandom privilege -- technically good artists are valued more than technically good writers.

...I'm failing to think of the last time I ever saw wank spilled out over my flist about art and honestly kinda failing.
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[personal profile] verstehen 2010-06-15 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/419786.html <-- the last time I actually remember artwank.

It could be that people aren't actually seeing the art, too, except for the graphic used on the artist's link page, and while the art still uses pictures of Haitians the most problematic picture -- the pregnant woman -- was removed, which leads to #2: the artist doesn't seem to be going all 'omgwtf!' and is treating it reasonably, apologizing, etc. (e.g., basically doing all the right things in handling this) so people are taking a wait-and-see approach, like you.
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[personal profile] elspethdixon 2010-06-15 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, the artist illustrated it with actual news photographs? That's.... I'm flailing for words, and "creepily exploitative" is all I can come up with.
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[personal profile] bell 2010-06-15 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
There was quite a bit of wank on mine when someone drew racist Foreman (from House) art; there were also complaints when someone drew Sherlock Holmes as a (highly stereotyped) Native American.

Those are the recent incidents that come to my mind, if they help.
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[personal profile] verstehen 2010-06-15 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
............... I, uh, have no words to that. Maybe it's a good thing I only pay small bits of attention to fandom anymore. Racist Foreman? Just? What?
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[personal profile] bell 2010-06-15 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, poor wording on my part-- I don't mean that *Foreman* in the drawing is racist, but that the drawing of him was very, very racist. The original post is here, though the image is gone-- to give you an idea, originally she drew him as two black balls going "yo shit!" and Thirteen, next to him, was saying "This is Foreman. He's black." (Plus someone went in there and deliberately made it even more offensive, making him hold watermelon and chicken, but that image also seems to have been deleted for good.)
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[personal profile] bell 2010-06-15 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Good times. :| Drew me absolutely up the wall at how much of fandom was also so "lol w/e" about it.
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[personal profile] verstehen 2010-06-15 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Okay! That makes so much more sense! I was trying to picture Foreman with white power regalia and Sherlock Holmes wearing Chief Illiniwek-like gear and my brain broke a little.

That said! There is surprisingly more artwank on Fandom Wank than I expected, but very little of it seems to be race/gender/sexuality related.
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[personal profile] bell 2010-06-15 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
THAT WOULD BE BRAIN-BREAKING INDEED.

The Sherlock Holmes fanart totally got the Chief Illiniwek-like gear treatment; I'd link you but I forgot where it was. :|
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[personal profile] elspethdixon 2010-06-15 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think it was deleted from the kink meme, which was probably for the best.
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[personal profile] softestbullet 2010-06-15 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
The artist (lolryne) deleted it from the meme, but not from her journal. :/
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[personal profile] elspethdixon 2010-06-15 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
My immediate instinct is to go "Gah, too soon!" regardless of whether the content's actually handled sensitively or not (though I know a lot of people use fiction to work through their reactions to disasters and trauma, this isn't actually the author's disaster but someone else's that she's borrowing, so I feel like it's different than, say, those 9/11 fics that got written in a lot of law enforcement fandoms and fandoms set in NYC back in 2001, or than a writer from the southeast US writing a fic that involves Hurricane Katrina or the BP oil spill).

Also, things like "The Haiti earthquake was still in the news and the more I saw about it, the more I wanted to use it until it seemed like the best idea ever" make me doubt that it's the writer trying to process/understand/come to terms with massive tragedy by writing about it and suspects it's more "the idea of earthquakes plotbunnied me. And if the writer wanted to do "slash pairing triumphs in the face of earthquake-induced adversity," because they saw earthquakes on the news, they could always have set it in California and created a fictional American earthquake. There are still all kinds of ways you could make "helping earthquake victims in Los Angelos/San Francisco" offensive, but at least they wouldn't involve real people who were in a real earthquake less than six months ago.

[personal profile] whatistigerbalm 2010-06-15 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
/o\ /o\ /o\
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[personal profile] amazonziti 2010-06-15 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Found this via [personal profile] gloss. I've got my own signal-boosting/link-roundup post here and I'm adding this to my list of links, if that's all right. (If it's not, just let me know and I'll take the link down.)

Thank you for posting! As far as I can tell you were one of the very first to get the ball rolling -- a huge thanks for that.
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[personal profile] ordinarygirl 2010-06-15 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, changing the weather for a fic, fine, whatever, I don't really give much of a damn on that front. But...

And the Port-au-Prince General Hospital was severely damaged in the earthquake and since then, its emergency room has been housed in a tent. In the fic, the building is fairly undamaged and even has electricity.

WHAT. Ignoring all the other MASSIVE fail of this fic, just WHAT? NOT ONLY are you taking a RECENT AND STILL ONGOING TRAGEDY THAT KILLED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE and are writing WHITE BOY ROMANCE using it as a background, but you have the gall to DOWNPLAY THE SUFFERING AND DESTRUCTION BY MAKING THINGS "BETTER"??? Oh, so sorry the DESTRUCTION AND DEATH didn't play into your little slasher plans.

AUGH. *FLAILS EVERYWHERE*

I NEED TO GO KNIT SOMETHING.
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[personal profile] ordinarygirl 2010-06-15 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I AM KNITTING A SNOOD. Because I am a throwback girl at heart. And because I'd prefer a snood to my stupid visor at work. :D
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[personal profile] ordinarygirl 2010-06-15 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I got a pattern that was in an Australian magazine in 1944! It's really cute, but my first try ended up a tad wonky. XD So, trying again!