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Ms. Marvel's sales have dropped below the point where Marvel can justify painted covers. This is bad and good. Bad, because less people are reading it and if the numbers drop more, they may cancel the book. Good because the Greg Horn covers have been alternately repulsive and repulsively degrading, and often at odds with the content of the book.
Anatomy issues aside, this is not how I want to imagine my heroes. The poses, the hair, the boob-socks, the faces - it all screams bad soft-core porn.
I don't have a problem with cheesecake per se. I really enjoy the way Frank Cho draws Carol, even with all the ass and tit shots, because she looks hard, strong and heroic. She doesn't look like she's trying to be sexy, or sexual while on the job. Cho's Carol fights evil in a bathing suit but doesn't seem to be seeking male sexual attention. Granted, she's receiving male sexual attention (from Cho, if no one else), but its implied presence in Cho's covers doesn't give me the same kind of icky feeling that I get from Horn's stuff. It doesn't seem as... posed specifically for titillation.
Though I have to just point out - in that first cover, Carol's breasts are all kinds of freaky. O.o
Greg Horn's Carol, on the other hand, has a perpetually dazed, come-hither look in her eyes, even when she's about to be mind-controlled, throttled by a cat-woman or possibly molested.
Maybe it's just me, but it almost looks like she's inviting violence.
For contrast, let's look at four covers from Carol's original series.
Now granted, these are from the era where action-y covers, rather than pinups were popular, but just look at her face, her pose. This is a fighter, not a sex kitten. She's fighting evil in a bathing suit with a freaking cutout and she manages to look tougher than Horn's more covered up modern Carol.
In conclusion: see you in hell, Greg Horn.
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In other news, I'm DONE HEGEL. Oh sweet victory.
Anatomy issues aside, this is not how I want to imagine my heroes. The poses, the hair, the boob-socks, the faces - it all screams bad soft-core porn.
I don't have a problem with cheesecake per se. I really enjoy the way Frank Cho draws Carol, even with all the ass and tit shots, because she looks hard, strong and heroic. She doesn't look like she's trying to be sexy, or sexual while on the job. Cho's Carol fights evil in a bathing suit but doesn't seem to be seeking male sexual attention. Granted, she's receiving male sexual attention (from Cho, if no one else), but its implied presence in Cho's covers doesn't give me the same kind of icky feeling that I get from Horn's stuff. It doesn't seem as... posed specifically for titillation.
Though I have to just point out - in that first cover, Carol's breasts are all kinds of freaky. O.o
Greg Horn's Carol, on the other hand, has a perpetually dazed, come-hither look in her eyes, even when she's about to be mind-controlled, throttled by a cat-woman or possibly molested.
Maybe it's just me, but it almost looks like she's inviting violence.
For contrast, let's look at four covers from Carol's original series.
Now granted, these are from the era where action-y covers, rather than pinups were popular, but just look at her face, her pose. This is a fighter, not a sex kitten. She's fighting evil in a bathing suit with a freaking cutout and she manages to look tougher than Horn's more covered up modern Carol.
In conclusion: see you in hell, Greg Horn.
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In other news, I'm DONE HEGEL. Oh sweet victory.
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*sigh*
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I don't want to sound puritantical or anti-sex, but sometimes it seems like 'taking control of your sexuality'='being a big ho'. Like today's strong woman has to put on a sexual display, in order to show how much power she has over men. It's so... reductive and regressive.
Anyway, where's the post you mentioned? I'd like to read it. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that women in 70's Conan were portrayed more positively than women in today's comics. Have you seen Jungle Girl (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/4059709.html) and the new Shauna/Sheena (?) the She-Devil? Even the old jungle girl stuff compares favourably, and it's always been thinly veiled fetish-bait.
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Greg Horn leaving = Good.
Please bring back Frank Cho. His Ms. Marvel looks like a legitimately strong and athletic woman. The only other Ms. Marvel covers that I really liked was Wieringo's and we aren't seeing that again.
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