schmevil: (Default)
schmevil ([personal profile] schmevil) wrote2009-02-27 08:38 pm

[community profile] scans_daily suspended

For all members of [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily: the community has been suspended for posting copyrighted material without the permission of copyright holders, which is against LiveJournal's ToS. Before you ask:

1) At this time we don't know who made the complaint. But guys, we don't want this to turn into a witch hunt.

2) No, we don't have backups, but we're looking into recovering our entries. ETA: [livejournal.com profile] pandanoai made a backup early this month. You'll need this to view it. [livejournal.com profile] acroamatica has it mirrored here.

3) [livejournal.com profile] rabican set up a backup comm on insanejournal some time ago. If you're in dire need of scans, go here for now. ETA: A while ago, [livejournal.com profile] sir_razorback set up a message board for the comm here. [livejournal.com profile] comics_scans is another scan comm on eljay. Their rules and culture are a bit different from ours. If you join, be sure to read the userinfo before posting. [livejournal.com profile] stubbleupdate has set up [livejournal.com profile] noscans_daily. Please join, so we can keep our community together.

4) No, this will not be the end of us. Vive les scans!

5) ETA: Since people are asking about eljay's stance on fair use, from the TOS:

LiveJournal and its designates shall have the right, but not the obligation, to remove any content that violates the TOS or is otherwise objectionable, or that infringes or is alleged to infringe intellectual property rights. You agree that you must evaluate, and bear all risks associated with, the use of any content, including any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of such content. Furthermore, LiveJournal reserves the right to limit access to your journal, if found in violation of the TOS, including without limitation the Member Conduct described below, by removing the journal and related user information from the member directory, search engine, and all other methods used in conjunction with finding LiveJournal's users.

and

[members agree not to] Upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, or other proprietary rights of any party



ETA: Guys, do me a favour and link to this post in your personal journals/blogs/whatever. I don't want people to get misinformation. I'm monitoring the comments and will be around to answer questions.

ETA: Update post here.



The mod team is looking at our options; check this space for updates.

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
According to the message we got, we're in violation of LJ's ToS, so fair use is sort of beside the point. The odds are against us getting [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily back, but we're in contact with Abuse.

[identity profile] kijikun.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
If it's fair use you can argue that it's for review purposes and therefore really not a copy right violation.

If it was PAD? I'm never buying any of his books again.
ext_39244: (Default)

[identity profile] buttler.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like that's a plan then. See above. (http://schmevil.livejournal.com/161736.html?thread=870856#t870856)

[identity profile] strangemuses.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Some of us haven't been buying his stuff for several years already.

;>

Still, if he's behind this, he's lost any remaining respect that I had for him.

[identity profile] kijikun.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'd been thinking about picking up the book because yay! happy family and I like the two characters -- and yeah. So glad I saw the preview that spoiled it first. I would have been so upset if I'd bought that book.

[identity profile] strangemuses.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. It's all "clever" misdirection.

Whatever.

Note to PAD: you are not nearly so clever as you think you are.

[identity profile] kijikun.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Can I just get one comic writer that can write families and children well? Please? Don't some of these guys HAVE kids?

[identity profile] scottyquick.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Matthew Sturges and John Rogers.

[identity profile] kijikun.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
What books are they on? Because I'm willing to try knew thing in the name of this.

[identity profile] scottyquick.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
Blue Beetle!

[identity profile] joysweeper.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I almost wish that I was buying his comics just so that I could stop.

[identity profile] oxboxer.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
The motto is strong in this one.

[identity profile] kijikun.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Chances of us setting up on journalfen, where the owners would be more...sympathetic?

[identity profile] foxhack.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Last I heard, Journalfen didn't allow new registrations. I tried a while back and was denied.

[identity profile] kijikun.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, shit it's still closed because of bots. You can get account by either paid account or knowing someone with an account. Because the service is 18+ only.

Still its an option, since a lot us to have jf accounts and a community could have anon commenting on.

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
My preference is [livejournal.com profile] synedochic's Dreamwidth (http://www.dreamwidth.org/) project. It should be out of closed beta soon.

[identity profile] kijikun.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Anywhere we move we're going to lose most of our membership and posting because people just won't remember the community when it isn't on lj.
veracity: (Default)

[personal profile] veracity 2009-02-28 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, to be fair, I have an account on LJ, IJ, JF....why not add one more? I only use LJ the most, but I have permanent on the other two. I need a place to learn about comics since I'm leery after my last comic book store experience.

[identity profile] kali921.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Dreamwidth is probably going to be invite only for a long while though, right?

[identity profile] kali921.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
JF was my thought, too. They'll probably open up account creation again soon. I think they're only closed because they want to deal with the spambots. But existing JF members can easily create a new comm -- at least, that's the impression that I was under -- and that might be the safest place to go.
ext_18106: (Default)

[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
For free accounts, yes. Aren't paying accounts still allowed?

[identity profile] neferde.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Paying accounts are always allowed and very affordable. Right now it's $30 for a permanent forever account.

[identity profile] mishy-dishy.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Why get something for free when you can pay for it!

[identity profile] sandoz-iscariot.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if Journalfen's servers could handle a scans_daily migration, though. They have one very high profile comm that gives it servers enough trouble.

[identity profile] ladystarscream2.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Fandom Wank, yes?