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schmevil ([personal profile] schmevil) wrote2009-02-27 08:38 pm

[community profile] scans_daily suspended

For all members of [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily: the community has been suspended for posting copyrighted material without the permission of copyright holders, which is against LiveJournal's ToS. Before you ask:

1) At this time we don't know who made the complaint. But guys, we don't want this to turn into a witch hunt.

2) No, we don't have backups, but we're looking into recovering our entries. ETA: [livejournal.com profile] pandanoai made a backup early this month. You'll need this to view it. [livejournal.com profile] acroamatica has it mirrored here.

3) [livejournal.com profile] rabican set up a backup comm on insanejournal some time ago. If you're in dire need of scans, go here for now. ETA: A while ago, [livejournal.com profile] sir_razorback set up a message board for the comm here. [livejournal.com profile] comics_scans is another scan comm on eljay. Their rules and culture are a bit different from ours. If you join, be sure to read the userinfo before posting. [livejournal.com profile] stubbleupdate has set up [livejournal.com profile] noscans_daily. Please join, so we can keep our community together.

4) No, this will not be the end of us. Vive les scans!

5) ETA: Since people are asking about eljay's stance on fair use, from the TOS:

LiveJournal and its designates shall have the right, but not the obligation, to remove any content that violates the TOS or is otherwise objectionable, or that infringes or is alleged to infringe intellectual property rights. You agree that you must evaluate, and bear all risks associated with, the use of any content, including any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of such content. Furthermore, LiveJournal reserves the right to limit access to your journal, if found in violation of the TOS, including without limitation the Member Conduct described below, by removing the journal and related user information from the member directory, search engine, and all other methods used in conjunction with finding LiveJournal's users.

and

[members agree not to] Upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, or other proprietary rights of any party



ETA: Guys, do me a favour and link to this post in your personal journals/blogs/whatever. I don't want people to get misinformation. I'm monitoring the comments and will be around to answer questions.

ETA: Update post here.



The mod team is looking at our options; check this space for updates.

[identity profile] crantz.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
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Here's actually what he said to me. I forgot how the last paragraph went, so apparently yes, the scans were down before marvel could talk to them. He was reporting them, though.
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[identity profile] buttler.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, what a massive tool.

[identity profile] davidkevin.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 05:09 am (UTC)(link)

The massive tool was whoever was posting scans of entire stories or issues in violation of [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily's own rules, and drew this fire as a result.

Peter David has the legal and ethical right (in fact, as the law is written, the responsibility) to protect his copyright. Calling him names is inappropriate.

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[identity profile] 90scartoonman.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yikes

[identity profile] foxhack.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
... What a douchebag. Did he EVEN see the post?
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[identity profile] buttler.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah. He came in and started a flamewar with one of our members about her comments on it. The fact that his characterization of the scans posted is a fucking lie is pretty consistent with his infantile behavior in the forum.

[identity profile] kali921.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
WOW. The whole issue wasn't scanned, though, so that's not in fact true. I wonder if that'll help.

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[identity profile] scottyquick.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
LETTER WRITING TIME COMMENCE.

[identity profile] kagome654.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
That was the entire issue? Wow, comic books really don't give you your money's worth these days.

Dammit, PAD

[identity profile] selke.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
So take down that thread, not the whole community. How many of us started buying comics again because of what we found here?

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[identity profile] electra-torch.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
So epically fucking stupid.

[identity profile] sandoz-iscariot.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Peter David: killer of babies and [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily.

Yeah, that probably accounts for the suspension.

[identity profile] seawolf10.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
WHAT. A. LUDDITE. SCHMUCK.

He has no idea how the internet works, does he? Uh, if people want to read the issue, they can download it from one of the million BitTorrent trackers or other download services out there, most of which do NOT fall under U.S. copyright law. One link more or less wouldn't have made any difference in book sales. Hell, if he'd just contacted the mods quietly and said, "hey, free publicity, now please take it down and don't let someone post a whole issue again," he might have come out of this looking good. As it is, he's cost himself readers and money.

X-Factor trades were on my "to buy when I can spare the money" list, and s_d was what initially interested me in them. Now...I'm not going to buy them, or anything else of his that ever sees print, just out of principle. Let's all boycott him, shall we?

[identity profile] tavella.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
If he thinks he's going to triple sales on the book, he's already living in a fantasy world. If he thinks he's going to triple it by alienating fans, he's even more delusional.

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[identity profile] gargoylekitty.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
What a dick.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/ar_feiniel_/ 2009-02-28 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if Marvel Legal still hammered LJ to take down the whole site due to the initial complaint....

[identity profile] leikomgwtfbbq.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Wowsers. That's all I gotta say.

Also, I giggled at "I aim to triple the sales of this book!" Kinda unlikely, I think.

[identity profile] proteus-lives.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Dirty Bastard! This community has sooo helped his sales!

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[identity profile] knastymike.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, I missed this whole deal. What book is/was he trying to triple the sales of?

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[identity profile] luxshine.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Wait... But Puppetmaker40 isn't PAD, at least not according to his userinfo...

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[identity profile] peppers-pray.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. I never paid much attention to him before, and now I never will. What an asshole. 9_9

[identity profile] megatexas.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I am really intensely disappointed in Peter David right now.

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[identity profile] nextian.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Do you know what the massive irony of this is? I was watching the LEGALLY OBTAINED Wolverine and the X-Men TV movie with my little brother, and he expressed interest in comic book deaths, and my FIRST THOUGHT WAS "omg he's finally old enough for me to buy him X-Factor! I should point him over to S_D to make sure he'll be interested, but then: to the store!"

S_D is a huge revenue draw for him! Is he a crazy person?