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schmevil ([personal profile] schmevil) wrote2008-04-27 09:35 am

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[livejournal.com profile] remixredux08 is no longer anonymous. This year I wrote Mighty Dark to Travel (Full Fathom Five), in X-Men Movieverse. The story I remixed is Frosted World, by [livejournal.com profile] ms_jvh_shuh.

Reposted to my fic journal:
Mighty Dark to Travel (Full Fathom Five)
Fandom: X-Men Movieverse
Summary: After John is shot, Bobby loses control. (mid X2)
Character(s): Bobby/Rogue, Bobby/John
Word Count: 3333
Notes: I know medicine doesn’t work that way. Roll with the comic book science.

I really enjoyed writing this remix. The original story has several different povs, and I wanted to keep that but make it more explicit - really colour the situation differently in each part. So I added the perspectives of one of the cops who shot at Bobby, John, Rogue and Logan, and Bobby's brother Ronnie. I had the most fun writing the cop, an OC, and writing Rogue, who's in an ugly position in this story. The title comes from an old American blue grass song, and the funky remix title is of course from The Tempest.

Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes;
Nothing of him that does fade,
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell:
Ding-dong,
Hark! Now I hear them – Ding-dong, bell.

The idea being that the road that John takes in the film, and that Bobby considers in this story is (duh) a dark one to travel, and this story, with five different povs, goes fully five fathoms deep (in that direction), or attempts to fathom five characters. Not too corny, I hope?

I was also surprised, though not so surprised in retrospect, to find that [livejournal.com profile] musesfool was the author of Packing for the Crash (The Black Brothers Variations), the remix of my Salt the Earth. Go read Vic's story, because it's great. It's funny, something about it was so familiar, but I couldn't quite figure out what. ;)

In other remix-y news:

Hijack Me HP is THE BEST THING EVER. Well, you know. Here's the deal:

1.) NO story may be hijacked WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR. (there has been some confusion about this, not sure why, but there it is, it can't be easier to understand.)
2.) All stories MUST be presented the way previously mentioned, any posts that do not comply will be deleted - We refuse to be sued or bitched at because you people couldn't be arsed to add proper warnings or disclaimers!
3.) All finished fics must have been beta read before they are posted. To find a beta, or to become a beta or brit picker for the comm. please go here: Beta List

Hijacked stories may be:

1.) added to
2.) used as an installment for a new fic
3.) completely re-written by the Hijacker (so long as the original plot line stays intact)
4.) re-titled
5.) of any HP variety (no crossover's however, we want 'pureblooded' HP stories only)
6.) Hijacked by one Author (first come, first serve)
7.) Spiced up! (you may take a 'G' rated story and crank up the heat)
8.) Toned down! (you may think some scenes in the story you hijacked are gratuitous and do not contribute to the plot, cut them out, tone them down - It's up to you!)


I have, of course, subscribed to the feed and am waiting for a special and unique snowflake to fall into my greedy and corrupting hands. Mwa ha.

***

I made two Director of SHIELD posts to [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily and the comments were mostly free of Ironhate and Civil War wank. It's a Christmas (in spring) Miracle! What continues to bug me, is how hard I as the OP, have to work to keep everything cool when wank threatens to explode. I had a couple of moments of pure, concentrated Intarwebs WTFuckery and just managed to resist the urge to respond with a flame the size of Australia. The community does okay much of the time, but the hand of mod is imo, just a wee bit light. There are times when I just want to share my squee, and don't want to spend the next three or so days a) justifying my squee; b) defending people who share my squee; c) defending people who DON'T share my squee; and d) soothing the savage, mouth-breathing beasts.

No one's twisting my arm - I could technically post and run (and watch the wank roll in), but the whole point of posting to a comm, and not my own journal, is sharing the love. And that's hard to do when posters are calling each other out over a fictional political dustup that happened two years ago. Or questioning each other's morality, based on their taste in fiction.

Not to say that my behaviour is perfect in every which way. There was one post, a month or two back, where I responded to all the constitutionality-of-the-SHRA comments with "LOLZ!1!1111"until they stopped commenting. *g*

And not to say that this is exclusive to [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily, because I swear, it's like this almost everywhere online. One second you'll be talking about the latest issue of She-Hulk and the next, the thread's devolved into a panel by panel dissection of Amazing Spider-Man, issue number whateverthefuck, and what Peter said, what Tony said, what Luke Cage said, in a comic that was published TWO YEARS AGO AND HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH SHE-HULK NUMBER 28. And ok, I think that's enough capslock rage for now.

So yeah, more modding on [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily. It would be good.

[identity profile] kali921.livejournal.com 2008-04-27 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually was thinking last Friday that I wanted to nominate you as a mod for scans_daily. [livejournal.com profile] rabican is clearly AWOL, she's anything but evenhanded when it comes to moderation, and there's been so much wank on the comm lately that has gone totally ignored by the mods. Even if rabican came back now and suddenly started enforcing, she'd be the biggest hypocrite in the world because she'd likely ignore all the wank from days, weeks, and months ago where she never said anything.

She also tends to go light on the wanky people that she tends to agree with (e.g., [livejournal.com profile] bluefall and her screeching ad hominem attacks and regularly scheduled epic freak outs, along with rude behavior from creators being utterly ignored), which is just...bad.

I feel your pain. I'm sorry that the discussion about Maria Hill got so heated, but then again, you know what she's a lightning rod character and that it's safe to say that she engenders a whole lot of hate in comics fandom. It's also safe to say that S_D people aren't going to stop openly showing their dislike for her when people post about her, because, again, she's kind of the lightning rod for so much that's gone wrong with Marvel these last few years.

I know it's not pleasant when you post something that you like and suddenly a whole bunch of people comment in response with how much they hate it. Hell, you go out of your way to scan material and add content to the community, and suddenly there's a dogpile of character/writing hate.

I don't mind it when people drift off into panel-by-panel analysis of something that doesn't have to do with the OP's scans. That's comics fandom, period. I often learn from those discussions, so I like them.

The dislike of Civil War isn't going anywhere. People hated the story, hated the writing, and hated how it changed the MU. I don't know that there's anything that can be done about that, honestly.

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2008-04-27 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually was thinking last Friday that I wanted to nominate you as a mod for scans_daily.

Wow, that's quite a vote of confidence! The largest community I've modded had 300 members, which is far off from SD's 6000-odd members. (I do wonder how many are active posters and commenters, though).

I think that for modding to be be effective, the comm would need a handful of active mods, and possibly some partimers, who could tag in when the primary mods needed a break. At least three mods, who got together regularly to discuss policy and issues in the comm. Part of the problem for [Unknown site tag] has to have come from a lack of resources - who wants to read every post? And if people aren't reporting wank regularly, she won't find it. SD is not a one-person job imo.

That said, I notice that [livejournal.com profile] rabican hasn't posted more than a one-liner since January, so there's obviously something going on IRL. It would have been nice if she'd announced she was leaving, so someone could sub in for her, because I do agree, there's been a lot of wank. I think the only thing that keeps the comm off of Fandom Wank, is the lack of interest there in comics fandom.

I'm sorry that the discussion about Maria Hill got so heated

Oh no! It went much better than I was expecting. I'm honestly shocked at how civil it was. CW wasn't even mentioned until day two of commenting, no one's made Iron Fascist cracks, Maria's sexuality was not speculated on, or criticized, and only two or three people acted like utter Aholes. That's amazing for a Maria Hill related post. The Tony post was even more amazing, because it was largely filled with squee. I was all "Is this really SD!?!"

It's also safe to say that S_D people aren't going to stop openly showing their dislike for her when people post about her

*nod* That's only natural and it wouldn't be fair of me to ask people to keep all the negativity out of my posts. I do really dislike the way some of that dislike gets paired up with misogyny, as it does with so many female characters. And too, the way that liking a particular character comes to be an indictment of a posters' personal character.

I don't mind it when people drift off into panel-by-panel analysis of something that doesn't have to do with the OP's scans. That's comics fandom, period. I often learn from those discussions, so I like them.

I don't dislike them in principle, but I do dislike them when they come in the context of "Dude, your post isn't cool. You know what's cool? Spawn." Which I think is insulting, as a poster and a reader. And of course no one wants their precious fanthing to be discarded in favour of someone else's PFT. *g* It gets excruciating when say, every post that involves She-Hulk has to involve 60 comments about the Juggernaut. Especially when there's been 5 posts that week. When people can't stop having the exact same argument argument for years, it gets annoying.

Though maybe I should just click away. ;)

The dislike of Civil War isn't going anywhere. People hated the story, hated the writing, and hated how it changed the MU. I don't know that there's anything that can be done about that, honestly.

*nod* And that's fair. I didn't really like it much myself, but I am enjoying some of the fallout (other stuff, not so much). It's not that I want people to stop hating it, or stop voicing their hate, because that's totally their prerogative. It's just that I'm tired of seeing new discussions get derailed in favour of having the same CW discussion again. I say 'same' because it's usually the same group of posters, making arguments that we've all seen before. I remember one post where someone, swear to god, near c&ped her lengthy argument about the constitutionality of CW TEN TIMES, in TEN different threads. I was struck dumb by the determination that every person reading that post heard her voice.

I'd love a CW-free week, just to see what we could pull out of the issues without bringing up the old grievances.

So that's my CW beef. ;)

[identity profile] kali921.livejournal.com 2008-04-27 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] rabican's been active over on the Girl Wonder forums since January, so I don't think that's an excuse.

I don't dislike them in principle, but I do dislike them when they come in the context of "Dude, your post isn't cool. You know what's cool? Spawn."

Well, see, I don't mind that much either, because often I get turned on to new books that way!

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2008-04-27 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] rabican's been active over on the Girl Wonder forums since January, so I don't think that's an excuse.

Ok, now that's ugly.

Well, see, I don't mind that much either, because often I get turned on to new books that way!

Yeah, true. Still. *pouts* I am holding out on this one. I will not let go of my righteous totally justified petty annoyance.

[identity profile] kali921.livejournal.com 2008-04-27 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Hon, go ahead and vent! We're all an unruly, fractious bunch in comics fandom and I certainly don't expect people to like EVERYTHING that happens on S_D. I sure don't. (Not to imply that you're unruly and fractious. I think you're far more reasoned and patient than most people there.)

[identity profile] crimsonquills.livejournal.com 2008-04-28 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
There are times when I just want to share my squee, and don't want to spend the next three or so days a) justifying my squee; b) defending people who share my squee; c) defending people who DON'T share my squee; and d) soothing the savage, mouth-breathing beasts.

And

Or questioning each other's morality, based on their taste in fiction.

God, yes. Not that I've had to do much of this, because when I realized the hostility that was out there, I pretty much ran and hid in safe places (my LJ and [livejournal.com profile] cap_ironman) and ignored the rest of the internet. *wry* But it makes me twitch and flail in frustration when people step on my squee because they don't like the character. That's fine, but when I'm obviously happy and wallowing in squee, just be quiet and let me enjoy, mmmkay?

Also, liking Tony Stark--even Civil War Tony--does not make me inherently a bad person. Grr, argh.

Preaching to the choir, I know, but wanted to share the frustration.

There was one post, a month or two back, where I responded to all the constitutionality-of-the-SHRA comments with "LOLZ!1!1111"until they stopped commenting. *g*

*laughs* Awesome! Go you! *grins*

(Also, this so belongs in another thread, but you continue to be evil. I went to the comic shop today, just to browse, and walked out with the first trade of Dan Slott's She-Hulk run. EVIL!)

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2008-04-28 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
But it makes me twitch and flail in frustration when people step on my squee because they don't like the character. That's fine, but when I'm obviously happy and wallowing in squee, just be quiet and let me enjoy, mmmkay?

Yeah, I think that there is key - don't harsh other people's buzz, as a basic courtesy, at the very least. I don't even mind if people are hating in the same post that I'm squeeing, so long as they don't respond directly to my enjoyment with their hatred. Like their missionaries from the United Church of Awesome, and have to reveal to me that nowhere in the Awesome Bible, is there a passage about my favourite fan thing.

Also, this so belongs in another thread, but you continue to be evil. I went to the comic shop today, just to browse, and walked out with the first trade of Dan Slott's She-Hulk run. EVIL!

Ok, now that? Is definitely in the Awesome Bible. ;) I hope you enjoy it!

[identity profile] crimsonquills.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Like their missionaries from the United Church of Awesome, and have to reveal to me that nowhere in the Awesome Bible, is there a passage about my favourite fan thing.

*laughs* Okay, that's the best way of describing that ever. *grins*

Ok, now that? Is definitely in the Awesome Bible. ;) I hope you enjoy it!

I really did! I know that there probably isn't quite that much personal character stuff and superhuman legal case stuff in her whole title, but I really, really enjoyed it. I also liked the art a lot. I may be forced to curse you as my collection of trades expands. :-P